miahus wrote:madd mudd wrote:miahus wrote:I hate to get into a religious debate, but you're wrong mad mudd :), if you say it mentions death to unbelievers in several places, quote me one of them plz.
Sura 9:29-33
Sura 66:9
Quran (2:191-193)
Quran (2:244)
Quran (2:216)
Not to mention the very origin of the religion, unfortunately, does deal with a lot with battles between Mohammad's followers and Meccans, thus cementing the Islam religion in the world. Not that it really matters...
The OP made a backhanded comment about other religions, and put "fight for islam" as part of his first post.
Very distasteful IMO. No one cares if he wants to have a group of regional friends to play with, or even of the same religion, but those two comments were unneccessary and distasteful.
If he truly is willing to just play with anyone, though preffering regional proximity, saying backhanded comments about other religions and saying fight for Islam isn't going to help with that.
I asked you to quote me one, not to just drop numbers on me. I have read the parts you mentioned but there is nothing there that calls for killing non believers just like that on the spot, and then you appreciating us not practicing otherwise we will go around killing nonbelievers.
All chapters and verses you mentioned cannot be correctly understood unless they are considered parts of one integral whole that must be read in the context of the clear-cut quranic rule that war is permitted only in self defence. in other words, the injunction to fight is relevant only in the event of aggression committed against the muslim community or state, or in the presence of an unmistakable threat to its security.
Like most internet educated religious scholars, you have been mis/disinformed. I don't even know what translation you were quoting, but i can tell it is a kittened up one :)
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